# Arnold Schwarzenegger birth chart without a confirmed time

> Arnold Schwarzenegger's birth chart for July 30, 1947, Thal near Graz: the 4:10 a.m. time has no primary source, rated C, so the chart is cast for noon.

URL: https://kb.astroway.info/en/people/arnold-schwarzenegger

Birth data: 1947-07-30, unknown, Thal near Graz, Styria, Austria; Rodden rating C.

Arnold Schwarzenegger was born on July 30, 1947, in Thal, a village near Graz in the Austrian state of Styria. The date is firm and every primary source we found gives Thal, but the birth time is known only second hand, so the chart is cast for noon. What stands out is three planets in Leo and an exact trine between Mercury and Jupiter in water signs.

## What is known and what is not

The date, July 30, 1947, is given by the US National Park Service, Wikidata and both astrology databases, and his official biography confirms the year. His official biography, the National Park Service, the Los Angeles Times in 2003 and Wikidata all name Thal as the place of birth. Astro-Databank and Astrotheme give Graz, probably as the nearest city. We found no documented source for a birth in a Graz hospital, so the coordinates are those of the centre of Thal.

Astro-Databank gives 4:10 a.m., marked "from memory" and rated A. According to its source note, the astrologer D.C. Doane passed the time on in 1979 from a colleague who reportedly had it from Schwarzenegger himself. Astrotheme gives the same time and also credits Doane. The archived 2003 Astro-Databank forum discussion of the entry contains no quote from Schwarzenegger or his family; participants there proposed rectified times of 4:04, 4:06, about 8:00 and 8:50, none of them from a record, and a search of his interviews and memoir turned up only astrology sites. An astrologer's retelling without a primary source gets a [Rodden rating](/en/methodology#rodden) of C from us. The 4:10 version is shown in the table above the text and would put the Ascendant in Cancer, but we do not cast the chart for it.

The chart is cast for 12:00 Central European Summer Time (UTC+2): in 1947 Austria kept daylight saving time from April to October. It has no houses, Ascendant or MC; the [unknown time](/en/methodology#unknown-time) section explains how such charts are read. The Moon's degree and aspects are left out, but its sign is known: the Moon was in Capricorn for the whole day.

## Sun, Saturn and Pluto in Leo

The Sun at 6°23′ Leo, Saturn at 11°37′ Leo and Pluto at 12°46′ Leo form a [stellium](/en/aspects/patterns/stellium). Saturn and Pluto are conjunct with an orb of 1°08′. Both planets are slow, so this conjunction appears in the charts of many people born in those months; the Sun beside them is what makes it personal.

Tradition links Leo with the stage, confidence and a need to be seen, Saturn with discipline and long work, and Pluto with the will to master circumstances. In the classical reading a Capricorn Moon adds patience and a long-distance approach. According to his official biography, by 20 Schwarzenegger was the youngest Mr. Universe ever, and he went on to win five Mr. Universe and seven Mr. Olympia titles.

## Mercury trine Jupiter

The tightest aspect in the noon chart joins Mercury at 18°11′ Cancer and Jupiter at 18°00′ Scorpio: a trine with an orb of 0°11′. Mercury moves fast and the aspect is separating, so the orb is smaller earlier in the day and wider later, but the aspect itself holds all day. Both planets are in water signs, and Venus at 26°46′ Cancer is in Cancer too.

Tradition considers the [trine](/en/aspects/trine) the easiest aspect. Astrologers link Mercury with Jupiter to persuasive speech and broad thinking, and the water signs add a feel for the audience. Venus quintile Neptune at 8°27′ Libra, orb 0°18′ at noon, is one of the minor aspects that tradition ties to talent and style.

## Mars and Uranus in Gemini

Mars at 20°19′ Gemini is conjunct Uranus at 24°30′ Gemini, orb 4°10′ at noon. At noon Mars is also less than a degree from [Capella](/en/fixed-stars/capella), the bright star of the Charioteer. Jupiter makes a biquintile to Uranus with an orb of 0°30′.

In the classical reading a Mars-Uranus [conjunction](/en/aspects/conjunction) gives sudden action and abrupt changes of direction, and Gemini adds lightness and many interests at once. The Sun's semisquare to Mars, orb 1°04′ at noon, ties this knot to Leo. Schwarzenegger's path ran through several different fields: sport, film and public office. His first film, "Hercules in New York", came out under the name Arnold Strong, and in 1968 he moved to the United States.

## Events often compared with the chart

- 1983: becomes a US citizen and keeps his Austrian citizenship.
- October 26, 1984: "The Terminator" opens in the United States.
- October 7, 2003: elected Governor of California in the recall election.
- November 17, 2003: sworn in as the 38th Governor of California in Sacramento.
- November 7, 2006: re-elected governor.
- January 3, 2011: leaves office at the end of his second term.

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